I do recall the mid 60's to 1975 and the hype was there at that time. My brother who is 10 years older than myself claims that they were referring to 1975 even in the late 50's, although I believe about 10% of what my brother tells me. My recollection was studying with a good JW in around 1973-74 and all he could talk about is how us young ones will not even graduate in this system. The push was on and instead of putting my efforts into a higher education, I quiet high school and went into the full time preaching work. Than 1975 went by and the GB denial by blaming the rank and file members of setting the date. That pretty much did me in with the JW lie.
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Children of 1975
by d inwhat was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..
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The old big orange "Paradise" book
by aquagirl inanyone remember that?
i learned to read on that book.there were some very disturbing images,like the earth opening up and people falling into it.like upside down ladies and hippies.id love to get a hold of one and peruse it with a friend and some herbal medicine.maybe there is one in the attic?anyway,that and the image of the snake talking to the beautiful,bare shouldered eve,who was holding an apple,made a big impression on me.any else have any faves from that book?is it still being used?.
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Sorry to have posted on an old posting but I was telling someone the other day about the old Paradise book and how scary it was for me as a young boy. I was trying to find the picture of Abraham when has the knife over top of his son Isaac and in the process of killing his son and Jehovah intervened. This story never made any sense to myself at 5 years old. I recall my grandmother saying that it OK for Jehovah to test us but not for us humans to test each other. It didn't make sense then as is still does to this day. I like the time on Family Guy when they refer to this incident and you see Abraham and Isaac walking down the mountain and Isaac saying to his father, "What the hell was that all about ?".
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1972 End Times Film: "A Thief in the Night"
by leavingwt ini just became aware of this film, today.
did the jws mention it, back then?.
a thief in the night.
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Watched the first part but I can't say I recall the film. I know that a good JW would not have watched it with all those "Long Haired" hippy types and those girls short dresses. Brings back good memories when I was in high school.....
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No true Christian would stop having faith in Jesus
by cyberjesus inenjoy my fellow jwns.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hjraagjudw&feature=channel.
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Thinking back I always had doubts about the existence of Jesus but the fallacy argument was always, "You have to have faith". I can have faith that the moon is made of green cheese but it doesn't make it so. Good video.
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exerpts from Governing Body talk
by Mulan injust got this from a friend.
weird stuff, if you ask me.
.................a little too familiar to what we were hearing before 1975.. bro.b***** had a part on service meeting.
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The only thing missing is a date and I would think that is the next move. The GB will probably start off by hinting toward a date like they did with 1975 in the late 50's to mid 60's. They will not make it too far off as then the urgnecy will not be there. My guess is when the GB sets a new date it will be something around 5 to 10 years in the future. Which of course after the fact they will deny they actuall said it.
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My memory of the 1975 fiasco (born in 1970)
by Lady Zombie indrew sagan posted this fine thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/160876/1.ashx in which a few people remarked that hardly anyone under the age of 40 even knows about the 1975 failed prediction.. i was born in 1970 and i do remember the 1975 fiasco.
for what it's worth, here are my memories and how it was explained to me.. late in 1968 my parents decided to have me because, like many other jws, they thought that i would never have to deal with the world or go to school.
they carefully planned to have me during the year of 1970 because they didn't want to go through armagedon with an infant, so they figured if i was 5 years old, i would be old enough to run, feed myself, and at least know enough to take shelter from the elements or hide.
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I remember this all too well as I was a young adult at the time. I recall having a bible study with a good "JW" fellow that at the beginning of every bible study he would look at me and ask me "When are you going to get baptised?" He would go on to say, "Do you think you are going to finish school in this system of things?" The time is too short, forget about a good education or career in this system, my duty was to go out and preach before this system ends. As a young impressionable adult at the time I had a lot of what you called "cognitive dissonance". I now only wish I didn't listen to all the BS and put myself first by getting a good education. I can't change that now so I have learned to get past that and enjoy my life as it is. A foot note to the good JW fellow that studied with me, after 1975 he fell out of the cult and it was found out later that he molested his own daughters....Some good Christian eh.
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We were all Atheists when we were born, at what age did you change?
by cyberjesus ini was a born in.
but when i was born i knew nothing.
i had no deity nor i knew what a god was therefore i was atheist.
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This sounds like the experiences I had as a young child. My first memories was my mother and grandmother reading stories from the old Paradise book. Even as a young child I thought the stories were far fetched to imagine an all seeing divine God but questioning this was strongly discouraged.
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Awake! PDFs from 1957-1969
by cabasilas in1969 awake!
http://www.filesend.net/download.php?
1968 awake!
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Thanks for the download.
WP
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Most people who are not JW's live with out moral restrain! All who have left the "Truth" regret it. June 15th WT
by life is to short inin the june 15th wt it says on page 9 i will just write it out as it is to hard and unbelievable to preface this.
so here it is.. "many who today are members of the christian congregation can tell you that before learning of and adopting jehovah's righteous standards, they lived without moral restrain.
yet, they were unsatisfied and unhappy.
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So there you have it those of us who do not believe anymore are just screwed up and very unhappy in life. We are out sleeping with everyone and just living a totally horrible life.
Darn I wished that was me....
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Lovers who need a Holiday
by YoursChelbie ini think there's a song somewhere that mentions that sometimes lovers need a holiday, time away from each other.. does it help two people to see things more clearly when they spend some time away?
has it helped you ?.
after the dust settles, you either move on and forget all about them or you gain a different perspective on the whole relationship.
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Distance makes the heart grow fonder so they say. It is good to give the other person their space.
I just recently went through a painful breakup myself. I am just starting to get over her but I still sometimes catch myself thinking about her.
The funny thing is I don't hate her only what she did. I do wish her well....
Will